β€œMen want kids the way a toddler wants a puppy.”

"If you look under the hood, you'll see that even in the past, many women didn't actually want kids, just like many don't today. But their options for realizing that and following through with it were worse than today. For those men who view kids as a status symbol, it's a problem if now they need to proactively express wanting a kid and find a woman who will want to have kids with them, because they'd prefer a world where all women want kids and they can get the outcome they want without actually lifting a finger for it.Β 

It shifted from something they didn't need to want because it was guaranteed to happen inevitably, to something that's no longer a certainty β€” so the ones just there to milk the benefits are now panicking at the prospect of losing them."

"Historically, the most a woman could hope for was to marry well to a great man, bear his children, and wield his influence for her own limited purposes. Being average or stellar had no real bearing on her perceived potential impact on the world."

"Then things changed, and slowly women stopped pursuing marriage and kids, and the guys were left hanging like, 'Hey, wait, aren't you supposed to want to marry me? And have my babies? What do you mean you don't want that life with me? What's the matter with you?'Β 

They want us back in that familiar role, the person who is 'under' them, the subject of their mockery. That's what I think."

"Men have lost their ability to control women financially, politically, and physically. Now they're losing their control over women through children. Fatherhood was always historically easy for men β€” they were only expected to pay the bills. They got a bangmaid and their 'legacy' out of it, but all they really had to do was bring home a check, and women were conditioned to take care of everything else. That's why men want kids so bad now, because it's the only easy way to control women. And women don't want them for that same reason β€” on top of not wanting to be a single married parent."

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